There is really no way around this. This BLOG is stats laden and that will bore a lot of people. But its baseball, you can smell hot dogs and watch a game just by reading a box score. Its a beautiful thing, especially in December.
Fernandez, a major cog in banners 1, 2 and 6
As much as I support the baseball Hall of Fame and their incredibly high standards, there are times when they make me snap. Quick recap:
Sport | Hall of Fame Founded | Recognizing Contributions forward from: | Total number of Members | Avg inductions per year | members per eligible year |
Hockey | 1943 | 1909 | 362 | 5.4 | 3.6 |
Baseball | 1936 | 1867 | 293 | 3.9 | 2.0 |
Football | 1963 | 1919 | 253 | 5.4 | 2.8 |
Basketball | 1959 | 1895 | 303 | 5.9 | 2.6 |
Just for clarity...baseball is a really, really, really, really, really hard Hall of Fame to get in to. With all due respect, if Rod Langway and Clark Gillies were baseball players the only way they’d get into the Hall of Fame is if they bought tickets.
That being said, the baseball hall of fame has done an injustice to the favourite, non-steroid using son of San Pedro De Macoris; Octavio Antonio Castro Fernandez.
There are currently 21 short stops in the Hall of Fame. Every era is represented, but comparing across eras is near impossible for a host of reasons. Comparing pre-integration has its draw backs. Comparing pre-1900 has statistical anomalies. Comparing before the mound was lowered in 1968 is problematic too. To compare eligibility you need to compare people against those in their own era.
The best of example of that, of course, is Babe Ruth. In 1927 he hit 60 home runs beating his own record of 59 set in 1921. Between ’21 and ’27 he had hit, 35, 41, 46, 25 and 47 home runs. Its really easy to get lulled into a feeling of “that’s what the era was”. However, when he hit 60 in 1927, the Boston Red Sox (The entire team) hit 28 home runs that year. He wasn’t better than other players, he was better than other whole teams!
Now, coming current day, everyone elected to the Hall of Fame should have some WOW moments against their competition. Maybe not as dramatic as Ruth, but something. Look at Nolan Ryan and his 7 no hitters, Rickey Henderson the all time stolen base leader, Andre Dawson with the great speed and power combined stats (plus being the trigger man on breaking up collusion) Cal Ripken with the streak and Tony Gwynn being an 8 time batting champion are recent examples of significant long term achievements getting people in.
Which brings me to Tony Fernandez. I’ll never win any arguments about why Cal Ripken shouldn’t be in the Hall of Fame so I won’t bother. Instead we'll look at Tony quickly on a statistical basis with the 21 HoF shortstops and then a little more in depth against a couple of contemporaries; one of which is in the Hall and the other who will be in 6 or 7 years.
For the sake of arguement I've stacked Tony Fernandez' stats against the Hall of Fame Shortstops just to see where he'd rank, this will be quick and a last place ranking would be 22nd.
So what does the above show us? Honus Wagner was a hell of a ball player for one thing! Fernandez' average ranking was 11.45, so that's sort of middle of the pack. But its middle of the pack against people already in the hall! As I've said, comparisions over 145 years of organized baseball are error prone so I'll leave Joe Tinker and Rabbit Maranville for the time being can get a little more current.
Now, lets look at Tony against his two “near” contemporaries; Ozzie Smith and Omar Vizquel. Ozzie started 1978, Tony in 1983 and Omar in 1989. They were all in baseball together at the same time for 8 years although all at different stages of their careers. Ozzie was elected to the Hall of Fame in 2002 and I think it is generally agreed that Vizquel will be inducted 5 years after he retires. Fernandez will never be going to the hall of fame. He received .7% of the vote, in his first year of eligibility, from the Baseball Writers of America in 2007 which forever removed him from the ballot.
For the sake of arguement I've stacked Tony Fernandez' stats against the Hall of Fame Shortstops just to see where he'd rank, this will be quick and a last place ranking would be 22nd.
Average | 1st | Honus Wagner | 0.327 | 10th | Tony Fernandez | 0.288 | 22nd | Rabbit Maranville | 0.258 |
On Base % | 1st | Arky Vaughn | 0.406 | 12th | Tony Fernandez | 0.347 | 22nd | Joe Tinker | 0.308 |
Slugging | 1st | Ernie Banks | 0.500 | 12th | Tony Fernandez | 0.399 | 22nd | Ozzie Smith | 0.328 |
Hits | 1st | Honus Wagner | 3,415 | 12th | Tony Fernandez | 2,276 | 22nd | Hughie Jennings | 1,527 |
Home Runs | 1st | Ernie Banks | 512 | 9th | Tony Fernandez | 94 | 22nd | Hughie Jennings | 18 |
Triples | 1st | Honus Wagner | 252 | 11th | Tony Fernandez | 92 | 22nd | Cal Ripken Jr | 44 |
Doubles | 1st | Honus Wagner | 643 | 8th | Tony Fernandez | 414 | 22nd | John Ward | 231 |
Runs Batted In | 1st | Honus Wagner | 1,732 | 15th | Tony Fernandez | 844 | 22nd | Phil Rizzuto | 563 |
Runs | 1st | Honus Wagner | 1,736 | 16th | Tony Fernandez | 1,057 | 22nd | Joe Tinker | 744 |
Stolen Bases | 1st | Honus Wagner | 722 | 10th | Tony Fernandez | 246 | 22nd | Cal Ripken Jr | 36 |
Fielding % | 1st | Tony Fernandez | 0.980 | 11th | Travis Jackson | 0.952 | 22nd | Hughie Jennings | 0.922 |
So what does the above show us? Honus Wagner was a hell of a ball player for one thing! Fernandez' average ranking was 11.45, so that's sort of middle of the pack. But its middle of the pack against people already in the hall! As I've said, comparisions over 145 years of organized baseball are error prone so I'll leave Joe Tinker and Rabbit Maranville for the time being can get a little more current.
Now, lets look at Tony against his two “near” contemporaries; Ozzie Smith and Omar Vizquel. Ozzie started 1978, Tony in 1983 and Omar in 1989. They were all in baseball together at the same time for 8 years although all at different stages of their careers. Ozzie was elected to the Hall of Fame in 2002 and I think it is generally agreed that Vizquel will be inducted 5 years after he retires. Fernandez will never be going to the hall of fame. He received .7% of the vote, in his first year of eligibility, from the Baseball Writers of America in 2007 which forever removed him from the ballot.
Here is a 162 game average of each of the players from an offensive standpoint. How this works is quite simple. Lets take the category of hits. Say someone had 2682 hits in their career and they played in 2820 games over 22 seasons. Instead of saying they average 122 hits a year (hits/seasons) you would divide the total number of hits by the total number of games played and multiply that by 162 which are the number of games in a season. Therefore a reasonable full season expectation for hits would be 154.
Tony doing his Rod Carew impression (Carew is in the Hall)
Player | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SO | BB | BA | SLG | OPS |
Smith | 679 | 79 | 155 | 25 | 4 | 2 | 50 | 37 | 67 | .262 | .328 | .666 |
Fernandez | 660 | 79 | 171 | 31 | 7 | 7 | 63 | 59 | 52 | .288 | .399 | .764 |
Vizquel | 663 | 80 | 159 | 25 | 4 | 5 | 53 | 60 | 58 | .273 | .354 | .692 |
Fernandez played fewer seasons than the other two but still, 17 full seasons in the big leagues is more than enough to merit Hall of Fame consideration (7 of the current Hall of Fame shortstops have less than 17 years of service). Clearly, I don’t think there is much question that among Vizquel and Smith he was the best offensive short stop.
So that being the case, Fernandez must lag defensively. Does anyone remember him playing? I think there is a bit of a Mario Lemieux factor with Tony. I was a Gretzky fan personally and one of the reasons why I didn’t like Mario was that it never looked like he tried that hard. There was a reason for that, Mario was 6 foot 4, 235 pounds. He had 4 inches and 50 pounds on Gretzky. Plus he was just (hurts to say this) a smoother, finer player than Gretzky. It isn’t that he didn’t work was hard, but he looked better doing it.
I think its sort of like Fernandez. Tony's range behind second base was right over the bag. Into the hole? He used to throw from foul territory for god sakes. This isn’t a declining Derek Jeter with limited range. Tony, in my jaded and baised opinion, was able to get to more balls than any (yes any) other short stop and he could do so without ever having to leave his feet. He could pluck a ball behind 3rd base on the dead run off of his shoe tops, not break stride and flip a ball to across the diamond to get the runner by half a step. Sure, Smith, Dunston, Trammell or Ripken would have dove head long, made the catch, got up and fired a seed to first for the out. Well, not Ripken, he would have missed it but it would have been scored as a solid base hit passed 3rd. The point is, that Tony would make it look easy and I think that penalized him. With other short stops you'd see the dive and "effort" and be impressed by that. Like Gretzky, with his head down skating hard, shoulders swinging, arms flailing; its easy to lose sight of the fact that Lemieux was going just as fast but you didn't see any more "effort" than you would on at public skating on a Friday night at the Tottenham arena.
Let’s look at defensive numbers.
Let’s look at defensive numbers.
Player | Errors per year | Fielding % | Fielding % Ranking | Range Factor |
Smith | 14.8 | .978 | 10th all time | 5th all time |
Fernandez | 8.8 | .980 | 8th all time | 26th all time |
Vizquel | 8.3 | .985 | 2nd all time | 71st all time |
Now, I kind of get why Vizquel would go in even though he doesn't get to as many balls at short as Gary Disarcina, but I still don’t understand why Tony’s not there (Ripken is #50 in range factor by the way). Defensive stats other that errors are not time tested and widely open to debate. I completely understand that. But Fernandez is still ranked 26th all time in range. Vizquel isn't in the top 50. I'll call this one a wash between Smith and Fernandez. Despite the range factor which heavily favours Smith, Tony had fewer errors AND a better fielding percentage.
The only thing left that I can think of is that he folds in the clutch and that's what has hurt him. So lets take a quick look at their post season numbers....
The only thing left that I can think of is that he folds in the clutch and that's what has hurt him. So lets take a quick look at their post season numbers....
Player | Series | Games | At Bats | Hits | AVG. | Total Bases |
Smith | LDS | 2 | 3 | 1 | .333 | 1 |
LCS | 19 | 66 | 20 | .303 | 28 | |
WS | 21 | 75 | 13 | .173 | 13 | |
Total | 42 | 144 | 34 | .236 | 42 | |
Fernandez | LDS | 9 | 32 | 7 | .219 | 10 |
LCS | 23 | 80 | 27 | .338 | 36 | |
WS | 11 | 38 | 15 | .395 | 17 | |
Total | 43 | 150 | 49 | .327 | 63 | |
Vizquel | LDS | 26 | 102 | 32 | .314 | 40 |
LCS | 18 | 73 | 14 | .192 | 17 | |
WS | 13 | 53 | 11 | .208 | 15 | |
Total | 57 | 228 | 57 | .250 | 72 |
In this view, Fernandez wasn't just clutch, he also got significantly better the deeper he got into post season. Sort of like the opposite of Dave Winflield (who is in the Hall of Fame).
People are going to remember their favourite players differently. I get that. However, I don’t care how much you liked Lloyd Moseby, you cannot spin stats to make him look at all Hall of Fame eligible.
I might be wrong, but I can’t think of any short stops from the 70’s that are in the Hall of Fame. But then you have a bunch....Yount, Ripken, Smith and soon to follow Vizquel, Jeter, A-Rod. That’s a lot of short stops who’s careers are packed pretty close together to make it in at the same time (or close to it). So help me understand. Why is Tony left off the list? In his era the only one better defensively is Vizquel (but not his range). Jeter in his prime wasn’t as good. A-Rod I would listen to an argument about, but its been 8 years since he's played shortstop and at his age isn't going back. The rest? Not worth time to debate. Offensively? No question Ripken, Yount, Trammell, Rodriquez and Jeter have it over Tony from a power stand point. But that makes them better power hitters, not better hitters. I think its pretty well established that neither Smith nor Vizquel are in the offensive conversation.
A couple of other Tony points that people SHOULD know.
- During Ripken's streak, Cal led or tied baseball in games played 16 times. It would have been 17 but in 1986 Tony Fernandez played in 163 games in a 162 game season. Tie games that are suspended have to be replayed in their entirety. Tony can't be given credit for rain, but he can be given credit for staying healthy enough to create this statistical anomaly. His 213 hits is still the second best ever by a shortstop.
- 1996 Alex Rodriquez had 215 hits. Impressive. It broke the record set by Tony Fernandez for total hits in a season by a shortstop. From 1867-1995, not a single shortstop, not Honus Wagner, Ripken, Trammell, Luis Aparicio, Ernie Banks or Robin Yount had has many hits in a season as Fernandez' 213 in 1986. To me this is a remarkable accomplishment that was completely overlooked.
- Fernandez still has the record for hits in a season by a switch-hitting shortstop.
- Played in 5 all-star games
- Tied with Kirby Puckett (Hall of Famer) with 414 career doubles.
- He finished in the top 10 of "most difficult to strike out" in six of his 17 seasons.
- 4 Gold Gloves (tied for 7th all time at shortstop)
- Ranks 145th all time in major league hits. Ahead of notable Hall of Famers: Joe DiMaggio, Mike Schmidt, Willie Stargell, Willie McCovey and a host of others.
- Ranks 149th all time in games played, tied with Johnny Bench (Hall of Famer)
- His 3156 total bases have him 41 ahead of Ken Griffey Jr. (any doubt he's in the Hall?)
So if you are surrounded by Hall of Famers and your defence, offence or play in the clutch are all better or equal to those around you....then what’s the issue?
Is he not in the Hall because he’s black? That doesn’t really make sense as Ozzie Smith is black and Jeter nearly is (or nearly isn't, not sure how that works). Is it because he’s Dominican? Now that’s a good question. As far as I know Juan Marichal is the only Dominican born player in the Hall. So there are the same number of Dominicans as there are Canadians in the Hall (Fergie Jenkins - I knew you were curious). And Speaking of Canada, how much of Tony not being in the Hall is related to his playing 12 of his 17 seasons in Toronto? That could be sizeable except that there was no shortage of visibility when he was here. The Jays either finished 1st or 2nd every year and were in pennant races every year except 1984.
There is another factor and that is that Tony was an overt and unapologetic “Christian” player. Clearly, statistically speaking, his devout Christian values had no bearing on his ability to perform as a ball player, but I still remember articles in the Star and Sun in the mid 80’s talking about how ‘you couldn’t win a World Series with a bunch of Christians’. There were very pointed articles and columns about the lack of heart of Christians. I don’t think articles like that would get through the editing room today, but just 25 years ago it was an open discussion on the topic. Tony didn’t womanize. He didn’t drink. He didn't get in trouble. From a sports writers perspective....he probably wasn’t very fun to cover.
Let’s face it, this can only go one of two ways. 1. Ozzie Smith and about 10 other shortstops do not deserve to be in the hall of fame or 2. Tony Fernandez has been excluded from the Hall. Pick one.
My favourite ball player doesn’t have a lot going for him.
· He made the game look WAY too easy.
· He’s black
· He’s Dominican
· He played the bulk of his career in Canada
· He’s a Christian
· He’s boring.
Is it the sum of these parts that has kept him out? OR, is it that he really wasn’t good enough to stay on the ballot for 2nd year? Alan Trammell has been on the Hall of Fame ballot for 8 years getting between 15-22% of the vote. Nothing against Tram, he's white, American, played in The States, didn't throw his religion in your face and it took him 20 years to get the numbers (roughly) that Fernandez had in 17.
Tony's WOW factors are having more hits in a season at Shortstop than any other Hall of fame eligible Shortstop (A-Rod is still active and ineligible) and having the best fielding percentage of any other Hall of fame eligible Shortstop (Vizquel is still active and ineligible). Is there another facet of the game besides offense and defense that I've failed to consider?
Tony's WOW factors are having more hits in a season at Shortstop than any other Hall of fame eligible Shortstop (A-Rod is still active and ineligible) and having the best fielding percentage of any other Hall of fame eligible Shortstop (Vizquel is still active and ineligible). Is there another facet of the game besides offense and defense that I've failed to consider?
Further, and lastly, why didn’t anyone with the Blue Jays or in the Toronto media care enough to say anything or champion Fernandez' cause? Why wouldn't the Jays have put together some kind of media push to demonstrate that he was worthy of consideration?
I just don’t get it.
Well my friend, you neglected to compare him to my favorite player, and perhaps a SS of that era that is more deserving than Tony....that's right, good ole' #3 from the Detroit Tigers:
ReplyDeleteFrom 1977-1996, here's where Trammell compares to other SSs of that time:
3rd in OPS+
2nd in batting average
2nd in home runs
3rd in stolen bases
2nd in runs batted in
3rd in runs scored
2nd in WAR
7th in WAR Fielding Runs
Against other SS in the Hall of Fame:
11th in batting average
11th in OPS+
4th in Home Runs
9th in runs batted in
12th in runs scored
8th in WAR
Before Tony gets in, Tramm has to be elected.
JZ: Nice Review. In their 162 game average Tony has Tram in AB's, hits, doubles and average strike outs. Tram has Tony in Runs, RBI's, Slugging and OPS. All the stats are close (OPS separtated by 3/1000 of a percentage point). And I won't mention defense because its an impossible arguement.
ReplyDeleteThe bottom line is Tony won't be going in. Maybe Trammel will be kind enough to mention him in his speech.
DD: I doubt the writers vote Tramm in, he'll have to wait for the veterans committee. Both of them should have been in ahead of Ripken, but alas we know how the baseball world feels about that.
ReplyDeleteDoug,
ReplyDeleteHOF chatter in all sports is boring. If a case has to be made for someone to go into a HOF, then he probably doesn't belong in there.